Discovering the truth of COVID-19 with Dr Peter McCullough, america's leading expert on all things COVID and the damage done. If you're listening to The Last Gay Conservative, i'm your host. Chad Law Worship every inch your feet have touched.

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I've been really on a health kick lately, so I've been trying to give you guys as much information now post vaccine as possible. A lot of vaccine injured people coming out of the woodwork and want to make sure that we have all the information we need in order to make the correct decision. I also think it's very important to understand where all this COVID stuff came from and why it was so bad and what has happened, because we're coming up on a very important election and you will need to understand what the democratic regime did in order to interfere in our lives and essentially shut down our entire way of life, government business for two years. It was evil, what was done and there was no care or treatment provided. So I decided I would start bringing in the best experts in the country, and I certainly did.

Today I'm interviewing Dr Peter McCullough Maybe you've seen him. He has been the expert witness for the Senate House Health and Human Services Committee. He's been an expert witness for the Texas Senate. He's been an expert witness for the House of Representatives, the federal government. He's also a board certified cardiologist and internist and one of the first people that said wait a minute, i get COVID. But how come we're not treating any of these patients? How come we're not trying to protect them from going to the hospital? Because once they go to the hospital the mortality rate skyrockets. So he created the McCullough Protocol, which is a protocol on how doctors could treat patients with COVID to keep them from going to the hospital. He has a multitude of awards, published papers, documented proof and so much data. Even the liberal media can't spin it in their favor. Dr Peter McCullough is the leading expert on all things COVID, all things COVID, vaccinations and I am very blessed to have him on the show. He's big time. He's been on Joe Rogan. He's constantly on Epoch News, newsmax Fox and he loves our show and asked if he could do it, so we're very excited to have him here.

Let's head to the last gay interview studio now. The following segment is presented, commercial free, by the wellness company, a new type of healthcare governed and operated with transparency, not pushed around by big pharma, and focused on keeping you and your family well. They have a range of supplements that will make you feel incredible, combined with telemedicine from providers that don't have an agenda. Go to twchealth today and experience what it's like to have pure healthcare, uninfluenced by anything else. Again, folks, twchealth, go online, choose one of the two memberships and see what it's like to finally live your life well. All right, folks, we're here in the last gay interview studio with Dr Peter McCullough. Dr McCullough, it looks like you are a Texan through and through.

Well, like so many people, I moved down here when I was a kid, but I do consider myself a Texan and it's been a good state. I grew up here, went to high school here, undergraduate at Baylor, then UT, southwestern Medical School in Dallas, but I went off. I went off to New York City, washington, in Seattle, for residency, New York City in Michigan for graduate school, rural health service and then fellowship, and now I was spending the last part of my career in Texas. Glad to be back. Lone Star State.

So now, dr McCullough, your resume is seriously impressive And without me reading every publication and every award certification, could you just sum up for the audience some of your credentials?

Well, i'm an academic internist and cardiologist so I maintain my board certifications in both fields And I've had a research interest throughout my career of how different organ systems relate to one another, particularly the heart and the kidneys. In that area I had a massed, a considerable publication base worked in in vitro diagnostics. Clinical trials and strategies have been involved with the FDA, a couple dozen data safety monitoring boards. I've been the overall principal investigator of large randomized trials And then when COVID hit, i redirected my research focus to the infection because there's such an unmet need. It was a brand new illness. Americans were being hospitalized and dying and I wanted to make a contribution there to help as many people as I could. So I led the early treatment efforts in the United States academically with seminal publications, and now I've turned my attention to the safety of the COVID-19 vaccine program since that became such a large issue worldwide Now, in that I have over 685 publications in the National Library of Medicine cited, over 70 in COVID As a reference point.

It would take about 25 for a full professor of medicine to be granted, so I've been very active. I've been asked now on three occasions to testify in the US Senate. Two times I was the co-moderator and the lead and testified in multiple state senates. Yesterday I gave a prepared presentation for the European Parliament. So I think most people around the world know me and they know me for I think, a couple of things One in COVID being very accurate and I cite the literature in every instance And also actually being correct on some very important points that change people's lives, particularly the need for early treatment And, i have to say, parenthetically, in the last several months I have rendered opinions on this explosive transgender movement in medicine.

Yeah, and it's incredible to see. I've watched some of your Senate testimony. I've listened to some of your interviews And what I love about what you do is just like you said, you're an academic and everything you do is backed up by data. You're not someone who really the anti-anti the people who are trying to suppress information like what you deliver to the public. they can't really argue with you because you have it there in black and white And you've become really the nation's leading medical doctor that's criticized. the response to COVID and the vaccine rollout and administration. I've heard you talk about pharmaceutical overreach during the pandemic. What point at the beginning of this? did you smell something fishy?

I said from the very beginning that, watching this unfold, that there are only two bad outcomes of COVID Hospitalization and death. That's it That if one was not hospitalized, one did not lose their life, they could get through the illness. And I didn't hear a single leader articulate that problem. We had two presidents. They couldn't articulate the problem. Hhs secretaries, coronavirus task forces. They were stating other objectives, slowing the spread, you know, masking, social distancing, lockdowns. They actually could not articulate the problem. So when we have leaders that can't articulate the problem, our chances of success are going to be low. Because if the problem was hospitalization and death, then the strategy would be to do something to prevent hospitalization and death, That is, treat the problem. Treat the problem to reduce the risk of hospitalization and death.

Now I recently read the book A Cloud Over the White House by Scott Atlas, And he met with Trump on a daily basis, him and the COVID task force, Dr Fauci, Dr Bricks, Rear, Edmonds, Brett, Gerard, Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff, And I read every page of his book. Do you know? not one time did they discuss treating COVID patients. All they did was focus on masks and lockdowns and social distancing, go over the data. None of those things help a sick patient.

To me, it's so obvious Take care of the sick patient. Instead, they were just focused on everything but the sick patient. And you know, when I got to the Texas Senate testimony in March of 2021, I really lit a fire to the Health and Human Services Committee And I said everyone is so focused on the vaccine. Where's the focus on sick people right now? Well, you know, that ended up landing me on Tucker Carlson And Tucker said well, why are people focusing on the vaccine? Why are they focusing on treating the problem? And so it kind of set Tucker on a two-year exploration into this issue And ultimately, you know, he lost his job over it.

It's insane to me to think that you talk about the cloud over the White House. I've read paper after paper And it's absolutely insane for me to think that there was one person who was the face of the pandemic. any other time we've had any sort of medical rollout. Even in the AIDS epidemic or pandemic in the 80s, there was always some sort of panel. Why do you think it all was fouchy?

You know, initially it was a White House task force. I remember that. You know seeing. You know a couple of dozen people stand up on stage And I was being very active at the time. You know White House contacted me, by the way, early in the pandemic. So did the US Senate.

So when I testified in the US Senate November 19, 2020, i said listen, there needs to be four teams, four pillars of pandemic response. Number one is a team working on reducing the spread of the virus. It turned out what worked was using virus-side nasal sprays and gargles. That was something that the White House never acknowledged. Pillar number two team number two was early treatment. That would be me and all the doctors in my circles, ones well known to you, including the group that led the FLCC American Frontline Doctors, now the group leading the wellness company all well known early treatment experts. Pillar number three was in hospital treatment. We needed to hear improvements and original research being done in the hospital. And then the last number four would be I focused on vaccines for those at high risk, provided we had a safer, effective vaccine, and I had sketched this out.

I had written a series of op-eds in the Hill, a journal for the House and the Senate and the White House insiders in Washington, and I sketched this out, but I said probably 2.7 million would receive a vaccine if it was safe and effective, probably no more than that because it would be targeted. And we didn't see a balanced approach at all. We didn't see any teamwork. In fact, the White House task forces basically melted away and we ended up with one dictator, and that was Dr Anthony Fauci.

Yeah. Another question I wanted to ask you was, as Four mentioned, you're a very successful cardiologist and internist. Before COVID, were you a believer in integrated care? For example, you have this incredible heart support supplement, but I feel like most traditional or streamlined doctors would probably prefer to prescribe a diuretic or a beta blocker or do nothing until the actual disease presents itself. How did you approach medicine prior to COVID?

I'm a traditional allopathic physician, largely doing all the in vitro diagnostics, imaging and then various forms of prescription therapy. Now I did publish a few papers about nutraceuticals and supplements for heart disease for those who've had bariatric surgery. So I had a, i would say, a modest interest in that area. And what's in the wellness company heart support supplement, as an example is everything I would recommend to my patients, which I have for 20 years anyway, including selenium and L-carnitine, d-ribose, coenzyme Q10, et cetera, and N-B vitamins. It's because, in the setting of a weakened heart pump, for instance, deficiencies of any of those actually cause form-fruits heart failure, like berry berry as an example. So we had, i want to say, those principles in allopathic medicine, but by no stretch of the imagination was my practice holistic or integrative, and that's really changed since the pandemic. Yeah.

And we talk about deep prescribing from the wellness company, about the deep prescribing and about medical choice and removing pharmaceuticals. But then, when we talk about the treatment of COVID, one of the treatments that comes up a lot is the hydrochloroquine and ivermectin, which are technically traditional pharmaceuticals that have been used to treat a lot of diseases. Have you used those in the past for viruses?

I've never used them for viruses. but boy, i prescribed a lot of hydroxylchloroquine for systemic lupus, for rheumatoid arthritis. I mean back in the day when I did my training at University of Washington in Seattle, our rheumatology clinic at Pacific Medical Center, i mean we saw what we did back then. It was branded plaquino. We had prescribed a red and a plaquino. Now ivermectin, i had used it occasionally for widespread scabies. I had never encountered a patient with river blindness, but ivermectin certainly had used that before.

None of those were applied against viral infections Viral infections. in the past we would use various forms of antiviral. So for instance Ganscyclovir with cytomegalovirus, acyclovir and Valacyclovir for herpes simplex as an example. We would use Old Temavir, which is Tamiflu, for influenza. Now there's a modern version of that. And of course we used antivirals in a combination called HEART or highly active retroviral therapy for HIV. But I had never used the off-label drugs to treat the virus. Now we certainly found with COVID hydroxychloroquine had antiviral properties. We found that ivermectin did, believe it or not, as zithromycin. there was about half a dozen studies suggesting it also had some modest in vitro activity. So did doxycycline And then, importantly, fomotidine. I think Fomotidine was probably the biggest surprise, that's pepsid.

Yeah, I was just saying, I think I take that, Yeah, pepsid is interesting that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has two ways it gets into cells. One is through the ACE2 receptor which is on the surface of the cell, And then there's what's called the Tempris-2, which is on the basolateral part of the respiratory epithelial cell. And there's two ways the virus gets in. Fomotidine blocks the Tempris-2 receptor. It also reduces inflammation. It's an antihistamine and acid.

But we found that we needed to use four times the normal dose, which was 80 milligrams a day. But I think Fomotidine, out of all the drugs, was the biggest surprise. You know there was a 20,000 person study by MIRA and colleagues at University of Virginia showing those who were lucky enough to get Fomotidine, or they knew about it, had about a 45% reduction in the risk of hospitalization, death or need for the mechanical ventilator. That's with a simple over-the-counter medicine. And so in the McCulloch protocol it was always about four to six drugs in combination And I ended up treating patients in their 90s, people with heart failure, emphysema, patients with low oxygen saturation. We managed it all at home and got people through it without being hospitalized.

Wow, because what I wanted to know is because there's so many people that were like oh my god, you know this is don't, you can't do ivermectin, hydrochloroquine or any of the other quote unquote alternative, even though they're not alternative. And my response and my question I didn't have an answer at the time, i still don't but is what is the absolute worst that can happen if you do treat this person and they have COVID and they don't respond to that treatment.

Well, it would be the same thing that would happen to those who got no treatment is some people would get worse, to the point where they're so uncomfortable they can't breathe or getting dehydrated that they would have to be hospitalized. So there was no risk at all, because the worst thing that would happen is that people would not get treatment and they would end up being hospitalized. So there was no downside to it. There was only an upside. We know how to prescribe both drugs hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin. We also know how to prescribe Fomotidine, by the way, used to be prescription. So we know how to prescribe these drugs. We know the typical safety caveats.

I'll give you an example hydroxychloroquine In an African-American person with a genetic problem called G6PD deficiency can cause a hemolytic anemia. Well, we know that and we take caution. Patients on certain cardiac drugs or can be interactions was called prolonging the QT interval. I think we know that. Ivermectin patients with seizures we know about the seizure threshold as an example. Clearly, people with allergies to either one of those With Fomotidine it's the same thing People with an allergy to it are intolerance. So doctors know how to prescribe drugs. So that was never the problem. The problem in this case was what we call therapeutic nealism is that doctors were prescribing no drugs. They were telling the patient don't take any medicine whatsoever and then wait until you're sick enough and then go into the hospital. That recommendation was a disaster. That was the original NIH recommendation and it was terrible.

Yeah, i don't know if it was a placebo effect for me, but one of the things that I immediately did when I got COVID was start having, like Myers cocktail bags intravenously and intravenous vitamin C Instead of the 10-day window. I was over it in about three and a half days and felt much better than some of my colleagues and people that work for me. That is something that I did on my own, as my own advocate, but it was very frustrating to see friends and family who just were so scared to do anything but sit in bed and cough for 10 days.

I know, and what we learned is, doing something was so much better than doing nothing. Turns out that the Myers cocktails, various forms of IVs. They help because people are prone to getting dehydrated. When someone gets dehydrated, they get nauseated. Then when they get nauseated, they don't drink enough fluid and then they get even more dehydrated. What breaks that cycle is the IVs. The IVs, it turns out some nurses that really were fearless. They started home nursing services and they would go out, and I would have them go out to patients' houses and give an IV of Myers cocktail and, let's say, a leader of ringer lactate or normal saline. We were able to give monoclonal antibodies, which are always safe and effective, believe it or not. We learned that vitamin C, if given in high enough doses, also had an antiviral effect.

You talk about the monoclonal antibodies and we heard that a little bit. It got swept under the rug. Obviously, COVID is still out. There Are those available still to use.

No. Monoclonal antibodies are now all taken off the market. Each one only lasted a few months on the market. They were always safe and effective. It was the saddest thing that people were hospitalized and they never got a chance to get the monoclonals. Everybody should have gotten a monoclonal infusion when they showed up to the ER. Those who were admitted to the hospital and died, it's because they didn't get monoclonal antibodies in the ER. They didn't get ivermectin or other drugs we could safely use in the hospital. They basically died because of under treatment.

One of the things that you talk about is preventing people to get to the hospital. I'm making the assumption here that the reason why it's so important to prevent patients from getting to the hospital with COVID is because the mortality rate shoots up once someone checks into the hospital or gets on a respirator. Now we see all kinds of data that says most of those deaths were also combined with diabetes or an immunodeficiency or any other. They weren't just straight COVID deaths, but the hospitals were so quick to rule them COVID deaths. Do you know why that would be?

Our CDC says that 10% of the deaths it was just COVID, pneumonia. 90% of the deaths there was some other contributing medical problem. You know obesity, diabetes, heart and lung disease, kidney disease, cancer. The Italian data are similar, actually 3%, just straight COVID, 97% other contributors. This is an important point. That means a perfectly healthy person with no medical problems almost certainly was going to survive COVID And it was medical problems that added on. It was the sicker and frail people that really got in trouble. This helped us with risk stratification.

I remember early on. You know what I said is people under 50, no medical problems. They actually don't need any treatment at all. They can just, you know, take care of it like a common cold. That was always in the McCulloch protocol no treatment. It was a large paper by mockery and colleagues from Iran And I was paying attention to what other countries were doing. They only treated 25% of the adults, those who are older who had medical problems. 75% of people didn't need any treatment. So you know that's called risk stratification And you know what we want people to understand is that if there was no COVID, those people who died 1.2 million people died they'd probably still be alive today.

Some would have died of other causes over the next several months or a few years, but COVID robbed them of it. And you know, the other vein that came out in this is that there was over coding. This was important. So once somebody tested positive for COVID, they were going to intermittently test positive for many months afterwards Because the virus is still alive and replicating slowly in someone's body for many months afterwards. So they're going to be PCR positive.

So we'd see somebody, let's say a nursing home patient, come in for COVID. They would be treated, they would be fine. Six months later they'd come in with a hip fracture and they would test them again. They say, oh, he's got COVID again, and so we'd be labeled a COVID admission and actually die of some complication after hip fracture. Well, that second admission wasn't a COVID death, it was really a hip fracture death with complications, and so that actually worked to ramp up and overestimate the number of COVID deaths. And as we sit here today, the United States is number one in the world in declared COVID deaths. Can you imagine that?

And we're less than 5% of the world's population. Wow Yeah, especially having it start and spread rapidly through China now multiple times you would think that their mortality rate would be much higher than ours. but it's because, like you said, i guess, the overcoating. I've also heard reports and I'm very I try to stay away from the crazy crackpot people, but I've heard reports that the federal government issued like $20,000 to $30,000 for COVID death in the hospital. So they would label someone a COVID death even though their foot was already at the edge of the grave with diabetes or high blood pressure or something, and COVID kind of just pushed them in. Do you know of any of that? Is that correct?

Yeah, I hasn't been in my area of study. What I generally know is that the Health and Human Services used what's called countermeasure funding and they offered preferential payments to hospitals, even if people were not on Medicare or have forms of payment. So COVID itself was paid. A use of a mechanical ventilator paid more. Use of Remdesivir paid more, And if there was a mortality, in fact they would be paid more. Even the family received some money if there was a COVID deaths. So these are what's called perverse incentives. Hospitals were perversely incentivized for these outcomes. And you can imagine what if the hospitals were paid to keep people alive or keep them out of the hospital. We could have changed the complexion of the pandemic. Perverse incentives are always a bad thing.

Yeah, well, usually when you get money involved in medicine, which there has to be some sort of privatization. But when there's incentives like that and they don't necessarily align with patient care coming first, it sounds like it's just a recipe for corruption and fraud and over coding and over billing and all of those things that can lead to skew of the data.

Most of it came. Most of it. The entree to this was over testing. Now, the nasal and the oral tests were only FDA approved as a diagnostic aid in someone's sick suspected of having COVID. The tests were never meant to be used for people traveling, people coming into the hospital for heart catheterizations or normal labor and delivery or surgeries. The testing that was off-label testing was rampant And all it did was raise more fear and concerns, artificially elevate the case count And it wasted a massive amount of money And the FDA never said to do that. The WHO in June of 2021 said stop all this asymptomatic testing. They said don't do it And it was. Finally we got to the summer of 2022 and the CDC said stop all this asymptomatic testing. But for the longest time, hospitals tested everybody for no reason.

I know. I mean it was so crazy. Here Stores had temperature gauges And I actually think that thermometer makes more sense than asymptomatic testing, because I'm almost 40. I have lived through a variation of different flues or whatnot. I'm obviously gay, so I see people with HIV and AIDS quite often And I think about this wine flu, i think about SARS the first time, the avian flu None of those flues and just the regular seasonal flu. I have never once heard asymptomatic combined with a flu. It's always had fever, cough, sneezing stomach, whatever. So why all of a sudden did this? I felt like the word just got made up.

Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point, yeah. So your point is well, there's no such thing as asymptomatic flu, right, i mean, it's either you have the flu or you don't. So this idea of asymptomatic COVID was basically a construct of modeling, of, in a sense, false academic modeling studies. It was assumed that COVID could be spread asymptomatically, and it couldn't. There were two papers, one by cow, the other one by madewell, that disproved asymptomatic spread.

And that was one of the first times I was like there's absolutely no way someone could be walking around with COVID and not know it, because the people that I did see that had it got pretty sick not necessarily death or hospitalization, but it was a rough flu for about a week And I just thought there's just no way that there's people walking around freely just breathing on everyone with COVID. I'm not a doctor, but it seemed like common sense to me. And then when they started using that term over and over again, especially to justify the vaccine because people are like, well, i live at home, i hardly leave the house, i don't necessarily need the vaccine They say oh no, anyone you meet could be asymptomatic. I thought it was just made up.

It's true, it became a witch hunt. Anybody could have it at any time. It didn't matter if you had it before, natural immunity didn't count, you could have it again, you know, with it took the vaccine, it didn't matter, you still could get the virus. So it became this miasma, basically an entire mess, and what we need is we needed just clear, concise messaging. That's what I did. I went on national TV dozens, if not hundreds of times and I consistently gave America the message on risk stratification, on spread of the virus, natural immunity, early treatment and then, you know, concerns regarding the vaccines. Over and over again, i became basically known for giving America accurate and concise, correct information on the pandemic.

Yeah, and not like I said in the beginning, what I love about what you did and are still doing is that you're such an academic and you're so published and the way you think is so data driven that when you get on national TV unlike some of these other and I'm not some of these other anti-vaxxers, and so it's like the left media automatically shuts them down, discredits them, disproves them, and they absolutely cannot do that with you. You've backed them in a corner with the right data And I think what's so incredible is that you were so ahead of the game and it's not fast enough, but I think, slowly but surely, as more data comes out, it's kind of catching up to what you've been saying since 2019.

Well, what I've told people. I've told major audiences you know, stage programs and elsewhere that I've given more media interviews like this one today and I've given more analyses. I've written more op-eds and put myself out there more than anybody in the world And it's more than Anthony Fauci, more than anybody you can think of. And the one thing I've challenged people is I've told them you find where I've been wrong, where I've been wrong on something And or where I've been inconsistent. Now I've changed my view on a few of the aspects of the virus because the virus is mutated. But when we have the density of media exposure I have, people can see the truth. The fact checkers gave up on this. These fact checkers are anonymous, uncredentialed people just making false counterclaims. They gave up because I just cite the information.

When I got to the point when I went on Joe Rogan, i set all the records for his podcast still to this day, a whole heavy record he's ever done, and it went all the way up to the White House And I challenged everybody. I said listen, all I did was show Joe Rogan the data. I showed the Spotify producers the published studies. I said I'll be happy to sit down and talk about the data. We'll just go over the studies. Which one do you want to start with? Everyone's like no, we don't want to really talk about it.

Now let me ask you do you feel like because I knew who you were and I know some of the more middle to right media outlets were publishing you and spreading the news But do you feel like you were suppressed during a lot of this time?

You know I am not a right winger or a left winger, i'm an independent voter. So I almost always vote for some Republicans, some Democrats. I think to be an independent voter you have to be stronger than either one of the two parties, because you actually have to pick qualified people. It's not tribal. Some people who are Republican voters, they simply just pull one lever for all the Republican candidates And the same person in Democrat would do the same thing. One has to be a lot stronger to be an independent. I've always been an independent and I've told all the media people that It's interesting that the right wing media initially tended to gravitate a little bit more to medical freedom, but now they've completely moved away.

So most right wing media has also turned what's called woke Woke is this term that means they almost kind of lost their minds on a whole variety of issues and they turned woke. Recently our Attorney General, ken Paxton in Texas, who was going after Pfizer for vaccine fraud, american Board of Internal Medicine for my situation of COVID misinformation policy and was going after Texas children for transgender surgeries in the youth. He was basically impeached by both the right and the left.

Well, i know why that is. I mean you can look at the Health and Human Services Committee in the Senate and in the House. You can look at various ways and means. There's so many committees and almost at least one congressman or senator had plays within Moderna Pfizer with their own personal money because they were pre-briefed on the potential size of the pandemic. So they all got rich from the vaccine. And of course they don't want to have lawsuits because that'll all go on the record.

Well, yeah, i wrote a book with John Leake and it's called COVID-19, the global of predators. We are the no, but in our book with John Leake, courage to Face COVID-19, preventing Hospitalizations and Deaths while Battling the Biopharmaceutical Complex, we identified a syndicate that had formed a complex, and at the top is the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, the Gates Foundation, rockefeller Foundation, Welcome Trust, cepi, coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation formed by Gates and WEF, the major regulatory agencies, the vaccine companies, and this syndicate basically ran the table and they invested in one another and they made extraordinary investments. For instance, Bill Gates invested 55 million into BioNTech, as an example, and he got out over a billion. So they invested in each other and, again, a not-for-profit company can do that. They don't have to worry about SEC filings or conflict of interest or any of these other things. And so this went on. So this syndicate, they ran the table and they had incredible power. So, for instance, they held 36 pandemic preparedness planning events. 25 of them were written. This occurred over a decade and six of them were filmed. Like Event 201 was filmed, and this is fascinating.

Do you know that we had state senators in Event 201, we had our current director of National Intelligence, averal Haynes. She was in Event 201, almost all the pandemic response leaders, the CDC from China, director George Gao. He was there And now that we learned that that was actually an operational meeting, the virus was already out the lab. At that time It was spreading around Wuhan So these people knew. They knew ahead of time what was going on.

And to this day, averal Haynes, her scenario in Event 201 was how were they going to deceive the world if it came out of the lab in Wuhan China? Do you know? right now she is not turning over the US documents on the Wuhan lab And she's 10 days late past her deadline. Josh Howley wrote her a letter last week and said listen, declassify the documents. She actually scenario planned being in this situation because the syndicate is all very tightly aligned to the World Economic Forum. They go to Davos every year and they meet in the World Economic Forum And they have been scenario planning pandemics, climate change, digital currency conversion, et cetera. You know this is in the open.

Yeah, i know it's amazing with the, with the, with so much, how much is in the open and how many Americans just bury their head in the sand on both sides? You're absolutely right Now about the vaccine in particular. The question I wanted to ask you is you know the mRNA vaccine was really the bigger push, but I know J&J had one that was non-MRNA. It seemed like more of a traditional flu shot. Do you see any differences in terms of efficacy, safety, long-term effects and the cardiomyopathy that we're seeing?

If we look at American adults, we know from the COVID community states program, which is more accurate than what the CDC has, that 75% of Americans took at least one shot. That's the statistic. Now, of those, 94% of it was messenger RNA And people have always asked the vaccines were all had tons of availability. Why was it mainly Pfizer and Moderna messenger RNA? We found out that Pfizer-Moderna had a marketing firm and still does call Weber-Shandwick. They had an installed marketing unit in the CDC, in the CDC offices, and Weber-Shandwick also installed a marketing program in corporate America called Plan VX. So Pfizer-Moderna were featured by our CDC, which never mentioned Janssen or Novavex, and so it was basically fraudulent marketing and conflict of interest marketing that drove all this.

Now it turns out Pfizer-Moderna are both genetic vaccines. Janssen, which is off the market, is an adenoviral vector vaccine very similar to AstraZeneca. Astrazeneca applied in the United States and withdrew their application. Astrazeneca's been that's the Oxford vaccine has been withdrawn worldwide. By the way, janssen and AstraZeneca made by the same company and that's emergent biosolutions outside of Baltimore, maryland. Oh, wow. So you know they're similar, if not almost identical.

Well, that's the same with Pfizer-Moderna right. They make it for each other.

Yeah Well, pfizer is made through a consortium. Moderna is largely made by a company called Resilience Got a big factory in Mississauga. We'll have another one big one in Australia. But the companies don't make their own products, right? A lot of people don't know that They're made by biodefense contractors. Then, lastly, novavax. Novavax was the original American company. Novavax is still on the market today, but virtually nobody knows about it. The CDC never mentions it. It's the only non-genetic vaccine out there.

Right.

If I personally, if I had a gun put to my head right now and I had to take a vaccine, far and away it'd be Novavax. Yeah, I agree.

I forget his name. You probably know. But the gentleman who was sort of the founder or the leader or the pioneer of the mRNA technology came out very early on and said this is not how this is supposed to be used. This is going to be a problem. It's not going to be healthy. Of course the information was all suppressed. I'd never said anything on my show because I was more concerned about liability et cetera. But I told my friends and family if you have to get it because, look, i don't fault anyone that had to get it If you have to feed your family between these companies that said you have to get vaccinated or you're fired and you have family to feed and can't live on unemployment or whatever, i get it. I really do understand that. I would tell them go get J&J or Novavax, don't do the mRNA one, because the pioneer of mRNA has come out and said this is going to be bad.

I can opine on that. I was the only public figure in writing who questioned the vaccines before they came out. You're talking to him. Not a single person voiced their concerns in writing ahead of time. I did in a very prominent op-ed in the Hill August of 2020. I was the only doctor in the world who questioned it. Everyone else was in some type of fear-driven trance.

It's amazing that people wouldn't look at this and say wait a minute, the genetic code for the lethal spike protein that's going to be the vaccine. That sounds dangerous. I mean, it was astonishing. So what we've learned is messenger RNA is a complete disaster. There's been a paper written by Lelani and colleagues in the British Medical Journal saying the United States has had an investment in messenger RNA since 1985. Tens of billions of dollars.

There's been a love affair with messenger RNA because it's a quick way to make a protein inside the human body. However, it cannot be controlled, cannot turn it on and off. Now we've learned that it doesn't get out of the body. At least the fully pseudo-eurodenated form, which is visumidurna, is like a permanent installation of genetic code in the body, producing the spike protein, which causes tissue injury, organ damage, clotting, bleeding and causes disease, to install this genetic code in the body and have it stay in there for as long as we can tell right now. It's been an absolute disaster. Now, in 2012, our military research division called DARPA launched a program called the ADEPT P3 program. It's still on their website. It says we will end pandemics in 60 days using messenger RNA. You say, wait a minute. That's before visumidurna. How did DARPA know That was our military aspiration of using this? In 2017, there was self-replicating RNA that was used in vaccines for pig or swine.

The companies have been on this genetic trail and we've just caught up with the COVID-19, and we've realized, boy, the side effects are definitely not worth it, it sounds like From what I've understood just from following you, is that you really came to the medical challenges that you saw through the medical treatment and vaccination piece. Then later correct me if I'm wrong as you got deeper into your study, you started to discover the premeditation piece and connections between Fauci and Wuhan. What concrete proof did you see that just that is? Was there anything that just turned on the light for you and went oh, this is way bigger than just improper care and vaccination?

Yeah, i think the big piece of evidence that still the House Select Committee on the coronavirus origins will not review This should tell you something, are the two papers by Ralph Barrick in Vanneet Manicherry University of North Carolina, chapel Hill, in 2015?. The title of the paper says a SARS-like bat coronavirus is poised for human emergence. In the papers they describe National Institutes of Health funded US created gain a function research grants that were outsourced to the Wuhan Institute of Hierology. They were shuttled there by the EcoHealth Alliance. in Peter Desig. They were shuttled over there. The Chinese did work by contract.

When the virus came out of Wuhan, the WHO announced that this was early in 2020. They want an investigative team and they wanted a majority member nations of the WHO to send in investigative teams. In Rear Admiral Brett Gerrard, who was on the coronavirus task force for President Trump, he nominated three eminent independent scientists to represent the US and go over there. The WHO rejected it and they said no, we want Peter Desig of the EcoHealth Alliance. I said wait a minute. He was involved with the Ralph Barrick papers. He was involved in the creation of this. Now he's going to go over and make some determination. This is what we've learned. This all came out through the emails Fauci's emails that Fauci and his boss, francis Collins, with Jeremy Ferrar, who was at the Welcome Trust at the time, is now the Chief Scientist at WHO, christian Anderson, at Scripps Redwin Holmes at New York City of Sydney, peter Desig. They all got on a conference call in January of 2020 and they said listen, we've got to come up with a narrative here. We can't tell people. it came out of the lab. They launched an intentional deceptive campaign. They published 12 fraudulent papers in the peer-reviewed literature stating that the virus came out of the fish market in Wuhan or came out of nature. It was intentional. Those individuals I named conspired to conceal a worldwide national security threat. People died because of it. They died Under the House Select Committee. they kept investigating. Comer was the chair, chip Roy assisted. I talked to Chip several times. He's from Texas.

They got to the point where they said it's clear, it came out of the lab. The National Security Agency said you're right, it came out of the lab. The FBI said yeah, it came out of the lab. The Department of Energy said yes. Former CDC Director Redfield said yes. The CDC said yes. The NIH Fauci Collins Emails said yes. Actually, all these government agencies had oversight in the Wuhan lab. That's how far they were in.

The US Congress voted 419-0 to declassify the documents. Tell us what the US was doing in Wuhan over the years before this came out of the lab. Now Director of National Intelligence Averill Haynes, world Economic Forum Associate, will not release the US documents. I have to tell you this now is pretty deep as a US problem. The US created this in the Chinese lab.

Now last week a whistleblower, young Chinese scientist, xiao Cao, came out and he was saying listen, early in 2019 he was approached from his former boss. They were both at University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston. His boss, who now works for GSK his boss over there so I'm penyang at the time said listen, here's four strains of the coronavirus. figure out which one spreads the fastest and is most lethal. This was in early 2019. Now this kid has come out and blown this and said wait a minute, now we're piecing in this guy. This was a US project done in a lab in China. China took it and then looks like they operationalized it into a real biologic threat and either they intentionally released it or semi-intentionally released it, or something happened in the lab.

A lot of people assert now that the climate change massive, the pull of climate change and the control of climate change, which is also very attached to the World Economic Forum. Some of these climate change leaders consistently blame the growth of population and the vaccine and the virus was merely a population reduction tool. Is that just a conspiracy theory or do you think there's some truth to that?

It's so hard to ascribe motive. One would actually have to ask Ralph Barak What were you thinking when you devised this chimeric virus? Was this first the sake of science? Was this on behalf of the US military to actually cause damage to another country? But no one will call Ralph Barak to the US House or Senate and ask him those questions. No one will. No one will even enter those papers into evidence. I would want to ask Xiao Cao now is one of the four strains you were given was at the Barak Strain was at the US invention from the lab in Wuhan, china? What we can do is we can look at the biopharmaceutical complex and we can look at their aspirational statements.

Within a few months of the COVID-19 pandemic kicking off, klaus Schwab published a book. That means he must have been writing it before the start of the pandemic. He said that the COVID-19 crisis will be a limited window to establish a new world order. We should take him seriously. The World Economic Forum in their new world order does prioritize many things, including climate change, carbon footprints and digital currency, credit scores, various types of social credit scores. Yuval Harari, a young upstart in the World Economic Forum. He's used the term that there's too many useless eaters. He said this in the world. Bill Gates is part of the biopharmaceutical complex. He's publicly uttered in a TED Talk that one way to reduce the world's population is through mass vaccinations. Hard to know what he meant.

Klaus Schwab, in 2017, published The Fourth Industrial Revolution. In that book, he said that the human being will be transformed They'll be transhumanism. In The Fourth Industrial Revolution. The environment doesn't change, but human changes, he says. In The Fourth Industrial Revolution, its winner takes all. What does he mean by that? Is Klaus Schwab the winner? Is he taking all? Is it the WEF? Is it the biopharmaceutical complex as we've defined it in our book? We don't know, but it doesn't sound good for the common man.

No, it doesn't. What's interesting to me is this country does have a history of sponsoring or being involved in some pretty scary medical experiments. I'm sure you're familiar with the Tuskegee experiment on hundreds of black men with syphilis. Dr John Money was basically the pioneer of the transgender movement from John Hopkins University in Baltimore. There's several clinical trials that have happened. I'm just wondering if there is a chance that this whole thing was one big medical experiment.

You know you'd have to ask the question. What were they trying to learn? Why did so many people take the vaccine? Normally if you're doing an experiment you give it to a small number of people, but you brought up Tuskegee. Let's talk about it. Tuskegee was in, you know, was in done in the South, and just a horrendous program by the US CDC and Public Health Service to study syphilis in black men in a relatively isolated part of the South. And the atrocity there is. Once it became widely known that penicillin could treat syphilis, instead of offering penicillin to these men, they concealed it. They concealed penicillin from the men. They offered them some useless vitamins and supplements. They let the men infect their wives. Yeah, they let the men infect their wives. Their children got it. It was congenital syphilis. And they actually withheld ethical treatment. That was Tuskegee. Our government, in the COVID-19 response, withheld, impeded and undermined effective treatment.

I just want to ask you one more question, if you don't mind. What would you say that the absolute contributor to vaccine injury? Is there a preexisting condition, weakened immune system? Is there something people should? if people have it, they should right away start to work on that to prevent that vaccine injury.

The single greatest thing that contributes to vaccine injury is the batch of vaccine. People should look up what batch they have. You can look up mybadbatchcom or hotlots It's the batch. In a paper by Schmeling and colleagues from Denmark The batch accounts for 75% plus of all the variation in outcome. So it's really not the person. It's a matter of if you've got a bad batch And we think maybe some batches have hyper concentrated lipid, nanoparticles in messenger RNA or they're contaminated with C-DNA or other visible contaminants. But it's really a product problem, it's not a person problem.

Any medical problem that people have can get far worse with the vaccine. So, for instance, if they've had a stroke or blood clots, oh boy can that get worse with the vaccine. Heart disease, like heart blockages, bypass surgery, prior heart attacks, prior stroke. Neurologic disease, like multiple sclerosis, for instance. Neuropathies can get way worse. Like Eric Clapton, he had a baseline neuropathy got way worse with the vaccine. Well studied there. And then immunologic problems autoimmunity people who already have systemic lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, other autoimmune problems. So we just have to watch out. Vaccine makes people sick. 15% of people who take the vaccine have some new medical illness. According to a Zogby survey last summer, it's been the worst health event for America, for sure, wow.

Well, thank you so much, Dr McCullough. You have been fantastic, as you are with all your other interviews and all your other TV spots. You are truly a wealth of knowledge and we are very blessed to have you on the show. Thank you very much for your time.

Well, thank you so much And remember to follow me on my website, petermculloughmdcom. I'm the Chief Scientific Officer of the Wellness Company twchealthcom, my podcast, america Outlaw Talk, radio McCullough Report, substack Courageous Discourse Book Courage to Face COVID-19. And, of course, you'll see me out in the major media almost every day. I'm not going to rest until this crisis is over. Again, i'm Dr Peter McCullough. Thank you for having me.

Man is my mind blown. That interview was way more intense and jam-packed with information than I ever could have expected. This man is truly, truly brilliant And I hope all of you are feeling just as excited about it as I am disgusting. What happened with COVID? And they're trying to push it under the rug and cover it up, and we have to remind people every day that this was not a pandemic. This was a planned democ by the boys up in the World Economic Forum. But there you go, folks. You heard it here first. I'm Chad Law, reminding you of what Reagan once said The American dream of human progress through freedom and equality of opportunity in competitive enterprise is still the most revolutionary idea in the world today. It's also the most successful. Amen, none of that Marxist BS. God bless you, president Reagan, and may God save America.

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